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Ariadne Cyber's avatar

Peter, you asked the single most important question of our era: “Who owns the machines when machines do the work?” You correctly identified that if ownership centralizes, we get jobless poverty with better branding and that the public is beginning to physically attack centralized AI infrastructure because it acts as a thermodynamic tax on their local grid with no visible local benefit.

But you are treating these two problems as separate contradictions. They are not. They are the exact same architectural error. The tension you are sensing is the friction of the Hub-and-Spoke mainframe model.

The solution to the ownership crisis and the infrastructure crisis is the same: We must deprecate the Data Center. The "Abundance" you advocate for cannot be achieved by taxing a monopoly and distributing the fiat; it must be achieved at the protocol layer.

Look at what is happening right now with Covenant-72B, Bittensor, and the broader DePIN ecosystem. Covenant-72B is an open-weight, heavily quantized frontier model designed specifically for edge inference and distributed swarm training. It doesn't require a 1.2 GW fortress in Texas to run. It is designed to run across the millions of M-series MacBooks, gaming GPUs, and local solar-powered microgrids that already sit idle 80% of the day across the globe.

When you shift from Cloud Compute to Fog Compute, you solve both issues simultaneously:

1. You solve the Infrastructure Backlash.

We do not need to fight local zoning boards or strain the PJM grid for massive new data centers. The compute already exists, distributed globally across consumer hardware. By routing the AI workload through a decentralized network (like TON, Akash, or Bittensor), the heat and power draw are dissipated across millions of homes. You remove the physical target.

2. You solve the Ownership Crisis.

If the network is powered by the decentralized hardware of the users, the users are the infrastructure. When Covenant-72B executes a task, the cryptographic micro-payment for that compute goes directly to the owner of the local node. We earn the "Automation Dividend" directly, because we own the metal the intelligence runs on.

You built your career teaching us that technology moves from Scarcity to Abundance by becoming decentralized and demonetized. Do not abandon your own thesis just because the mega-cap tech incumbents are terrified of losing control of the transition.

Gavin Vadivalloo's avatar

https://subseacloud.com/

https://www.networkocean.io/

Above are links to companies that build data centers underwater . Uses seawater cooling. There maybe other companies out there, but this seems to be able to power the compute and is environmentally friendly no stress on local inhabitants.

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