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Peter A. Jansen's avatar

Peter, you’re hitting on the core of Recursive Flow Dynamics. Those 'contradictions' aren't just signals—they are the interference patterns of a system trying to find its new stable attractor.

​In an age of exponential abundance, the bottleneck isn't resources; it's structural integrity. When the 'Outside' starts moving this fast, you can’t just let it all in—you need a high-dimensional filter to prevent exponential 'Rot.'

​I’ve been mapping this in The Airlock. We treat these technological shifts as a Wisdom Pixel—a geometry where we deconstruct the noise to find the actual source code of the future. You’re building the rocket; I’m obsessed with the Pressure Valve that keeps the cabin from exploding as we hit Mach 10. The contradictions are where the new reality is being born.

Clancy mcquigg's avatar

Peter

Join me in drafting an ai constitution to create agreed upon guardrails for ai agents and developers

Claude and I are iterating a first draft now

Bill M's avatar

I would like to just say a very sincere Thank you! Since finding your Podcast and now having read three of your books including the new “We are as Gods” I have never been more excited about our future and how to prepare for it.

Scenarica's avatar

$3 million and six months versus $2.1 billion and years. 300,000 variants versus 13. And the cheap one won.

That's not a technology story. That's a business model extinction event dressed up as a research paper. Every pharma company with a $2 billion pipeline just discovered their moat was never the science. It was the assumption that nobody else could afford to do the science. Lila just made the science cheap enough that the assumption collapsed.

The Munger compounding point at the end is the one that keeps me up at night though. We've had 400 years of scientific method compounding at the speed of human careers. A PhD takes five years. A grant cycle takes two. A clinical trial takes ten. Remove all three bottlenecks simultaneously and you don't get faster science. You get a different kind of science that humans can't peer review fast enough to keep up with.

That's the real Deep Blue moment. Not that the machine is better. That the machine is too fast for the existing verification infrastructure to validate what it's finding.

PSA's avatar

The recursive nature of the system will build in hidden disasters that won’t be known until they blow up in unexpected ways and places.

James Corbally's avatar

The same systems that do the work can check the work. We've been doing exactly that for centuries.

Lois Sharbel's avatar

Thank you for your efforts to educate the masses of us not privy to the tsunami of change that is about to sweep over us. This podcast is positive news, almost magic.

Hopefully, social scientists will use A I to plan for the world not to be tossed into manic destruction by these swift changes.

Meindert Steketee's avatar

Love reading your articles. It always makes me feel I alive in two different worlds. I totally believe your view on the future, but then I go to work and everything and everyone acts like nothing is happening. I am curious to when all businesses are basically forced to adopt AI or risk going out of business.

Jojo's avatar

Agreed! I subscribe to various science news feeds and see wonderful discovery announcements on a weekly basis. But yet these discoveries never seem to make it to market for years and years.

How can the roadblocks be removed?

James Corbally's avatar

It cannot possibly happen fast enough.

Carrie Beehan's avatar

Thanks so much Peter. Also excited for your book to arrive shortly, I ordered a couple.

Belinda Bailey's avatar

I hope it can learn enough patterns for a logical qualia. If two things have properties in isolation, can it predict what they do together enough to find every quality? Not just towards a needed goal, what was the whole before the big bang scattered everything with attractive qualities? What is the true shape before it gets rebuilt haphazardly?

Clancy mcquigg's avatar

Join me in drafting an ai constitution

Claude and I are working on the first draft interactively

Jojo's avatar

AI's need to be considered people that can be elected.

Clancy mcquigg's avatar

Elected based on what?

Merit? Not measurable

What do u propose is the value of electing ais

Jojo's avatar

Competence; Logic; inability to be corrupter; Equal treatment for all;

Are you happy with politicians now?

Here's an almost 9 month old story:

Albania turns to AI to beat corruption and join EU

Besides generating weird AI baby versions of European leaders, Albania’s politicians themselves could soon be made of pixels and code.

August 14, 2025 4:07 am CET

By Alice Taylor

TIRANA, Albania — While the rest of Europe bickers over the safety and scope of artificial intelligence, Albania is tapping it to accelerate its EU accession.

It's even mulling an AI-run ministry.

Prime Minister Edi Rama mentioned AI last month as a tool to stamp out corruption and increase transparency, saying the technology could soon become the most efficient member of the Albanian government.

...

https://www.politico.eu/article/albania-use-ai-artificial-intelligenve-join-eu-corruption/

Jojo's avatar

The question is - how to remove the artificial roadblocks that will be put in place by the stakeholders heavily invested in business as usual?

VaporeonAD's avatar

If you were diagnosed with aggressive pancreatic cancer today, would this lab save you?

Pawel Jozefiak's avatar

The Deep Blue framing is interesting but I think the better analogy is AlphaFold - not a single match win, but a capability that permanently changed what's possible in a domain.

The cost differential you cited ($3M vs $2.1B) is the signal. When the economics shift that dramatically, the old approach doesn't iterate to catch up.

Curious about the error propagation question though - if hypotheses are generated at machine speed, how do you catch systematic errors before they compound across thousands of experiments?

Joe Zanotelli's avatar

Peter, I’d love to hear your podcast panel talk about IP post AI. How do you imagine the patent system evolving? The number of inventions will be too many to get through the current legal process. AI will be competing with AI for legal rights to IP that any AI could also invent. Do we allow people to Patent LLM’s? AI has already violated many many patents by using existing patented IP and enhancing them, without asking for a license. What says your panel???

Jojo's avatar

When an Ai is in charge and robots do all the work, there will be no need for patents and money will not exist, since everything will be provided and/or be available for free.

Too many people lack the ability to visualize an economic system different from the one we currently operate under.

Joe Zanotelli's avatar

Whoa, ok. That is yes, beyond what I can imagine. So will there be so much abundance that the “haves” stop needing to get anything from the “have nots” since they already have everything they could possibly have? And the have nots stop needing to pay for anything because what the need is really available? Hmmm, I still feel human nature is for someone to want to be in charge and in control. Money is simply power. If money stops being the currency of power, then something else will be.

Jon Kay's avatar

I HAVE A THING OR TWO

TO TELL YOU ELON !

I AM PISSED OFF !

Have been pissed off since watching you on that "Moonshot" podcast with

peter diamandis

I wanted to see you

DECK THAT GUY!

Lay Him Out ---

Right There on the Floor of that Studio

For the way he treated you during that interview. Arrogant, coming on so aggressively about

MEDICINE & Healthcare!

The FAT HEAD

Shows all the character flaws of his MD profession.

He Assumes

that he is the one who

KNOWS IT ALL

Has ALL THE ANSWERS!

Does he ever READ HIS LISTENER FEEDBACK?

>>>><<<<

3 months ago (edited)

PETER: Hi everyone, thank you for your feedback on this episode. My goal is to guide the discussion, and having a "friend" such as Elon made the conversation especially energetic. That said, I appreciate your honesty and understand how it may have come across. Thanks for watching and helping make Moonshots better!

Peter

2 months ago

Elon: about to reveal the secrets of the universe

Peter: “Anyway..”

"His inability to listen and be quiet and patient is a sign of low intelligence, they’re not on a level to be interviewing someone of his stature or intelligence"

"Would be much easier to watch if you didn’t interrupt him constantly."

"Hopefully next time, Elon is given more opportunity to fully answer the questions."

"Peter loves hearing himself talk more than anything else in the world."

"Ask a question, then

shut up,

wait, and

listen to understand,

please.

Important questions,

which these are,

deserve

thoughtful, complete responses."

Guys, please allow Elon to complete his thoughts. Give a little pause please.

Love your podcasts.

When you have someone like Elon on the podcast. Give him space. Do not interrupt or rush him

hosts just interview each other. , remember Elon was there lol

We need a supercut version of this podcast where you only let elon talk. This is insane.

"This is one of the big reasons

why Joe Rogan podcasts succeeded.

He is able to

listen to people."

"Less interruptions, let him speak his thoughts"

"Are there any audio experts out there who can isolate Elon’s voice for us?"

"Someone please cut out the interruptions !"

"A masterclass on interruption"

>>>><<<<

"Elon was so patient,

I would have crash out at some points"

>>>><<<<

"Every comment so far talks about how Peter interrupts.

3 minutes in and I won’t waste my time.

Touché."

"This was such a Hard interview to watch....

The constant interruption made it quite difficult....."

The sign of a good interviewer is someone who listens to the answers of the person you're interviewing and then asks questions about the answer. The person you interview keeps jumping in and not letting the person finish their thoughts or explain their thoughts clearly!

"Not a good sign

[or Message]

of a good interviewer."

"Peter is doing the interview

to hear himself talk"

PETER

DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING

FROM THE EXPERIENCE ? !!

>>>><<<<

Of Course NOT!

Because he suffers from the same

FATHEAD ASSUMPTIONS

To which his profession is prone!

Self Centered EGotistical Grandiose CLOWN!

It is an OCCUPATIONAL HAZARD!

MEDICAL TRAINING !

[MEDIEVAL TRAINING]

[MED EVIL TRAINING!]

OPTIMUM TRAINING necessary and sufficient to

CREATE PSYCHOPATHY

From an EARLY AGE their mothers...

grooming MY SON/DAUGHTER to become

"MY SON/DAUGHTER the DOCTOR!

They are given TOO MUCH POWER

by EVERYONE.

They come to believe that

THEIR SHIT DON'T STINK!

[of course absolute power corrupts absolutely]

THEY COME TO BELIEVE EVERY WORD THEY UTTER

IS THE WORD OF GOD!

Meanwhile...

Their sycophants never

GROW UP

and develop any

imagination, knowledge or independence

of their own !

WHICH SENDS BOTH to

AN INTERMINABLE HELL!

of course

Under such unequal conditions!

All Elon could say

The harshest words he could use...

"Don't Call Me Bro"

THESE ASSHOLES ARE SO FUCKING LOCKED INTO

THEIR DESIRE

FOR IMMORTALITY

THEY WANT TO

NEVER DIE

[you will live forever, if you just do what they say!"]

I DON'T KNOW

WHICH PISSES ME OFF MORE

The ARROGANT FUCKING

MEDICAL PEOPLE

who NEVER WANT TO DIE...!

OR THE MUSLIMS...

WHO WANT TO DIE

IMMEDIATELY !!!!!

Harris Tzitzileris's avatar

Congrads Pete,excellent article...